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an adventure in software testing tuesday, 29 may 2018 hacking the rules (in a safe space) have you ever played a game of shared assumptions? you might've. i made the name up. it's a game i've both seen as part of training courses on specification ambiguity and something i would swear i invented when drunk once. do you remember guess who? it's a game where players take turns asking yes/no questions about the appearance of the character on their opponent's card, aiming to be first to identify the character their opponent holds. shared assumptions is a game where you play the same game with the same rules, except that you aren't allowed to ask anything about appearance . i've played this game with friends, with kids, with colleagues, with testers. it's great fun watching people use creative thinking to hack around the seemingly impossible rules. (writing this reminds me of nicola sedgwick 's awesome workshop on gamification at testbash 2015 - slides here ) if you've never played these rules, i truly encourage you to try this game. in facilitating this game, i always emphasise that they're playing in a "safe place" because anything you say about a person's appearance must be based on some other characteristic, and so is by its nature, based on a social stereotype of a characteristic, and often a protected one, like age or gender. sometimes the results are simple and creative: remembers the "good old days" remembers the release of the first godfather movie never worries about a bad hair day visits an opticians on a regular basis sometimes the results are plain odd: has large feet likes beach holidays allowed on a rollercoaster has experienced a significant life trauma i've loved playing and facilitating this game, showing groups that in about two thirds of games there's no winner because the pair didn't share an assumption somewhere along the line. watching team members dissect where they went wrong and debate whose assumption was incorrect was great to watch. of course it's an argument between adults over a children's game, but it also highlights the people who want to understand why they're not getting the best possible results. there's loads of positives about playing this game in a work setting and the lessons it can teach you about teamwork and the lines of the specification that were only ever implied. the single greatest positive i've taken from this game is the look on my kid's face when he realised i get paid to play guess who. posted by dan caseley at 02:22 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest wednesday, 2 may 2018 choosing an api tool a story about selecting tools from my previous job. in the dark days, we explored as a user would, and when things changed, we explored again. later, it got lighter, and we used tools like fiddler to help us explore. we saw more, and we used our tools to explore deeper than we could before. before too long, w e started automating. one time, we encountered a problem where we needed to know if a piece of common markup (in this case, a support popup) displayed correctly in all of our sites, in all of the browsers and in all of the languages. we automated visiting all of the pages on which this markup was displayed, taking a screenshot, then quickly reviewing the hundreds of outputs. the cost/benefit was obvious here - one person achieved more with browser automation in a day and a half than a group of people could have done using manual methods. later, we used our browser automation skills on other tasks and on other projects - some of it was for confidence in the project, and some was for confidence in the live environment (i.e. used for monitoring). important people saw this work and they wanted to see more of this. so we stopped. automating all of the things isn't necessarily beneficial, especially not when you're using a heavyweight tool (in our case nightwatch.js and selenium). we didn't want to build a massive body of tests where all of the variants were taking many seconds to iterate through. we needed to cover these with something more lightweight, and only use the ui tests when we need them. (image source: slideshare.net ) we do want to automate more of the things. we just don't want it to take hours running them through a real browser. we also don't want to automate everything just because we can - we want the things that are important to us, and will give us real information and confidence in an acceptable timescale. our next step: api tests. when we began automating using nightwatch, we were a test team of 2. now we're a test community of 6, working in a squad structure. co-ordinating time isn't as easy. we couldn't simply ease this in. we'd need some sort of "big bang" effort, else people would be left behind because of the "impending deadline" for the "current important thing". i got buy-in from the squad leads, booked a meeting room for an afternoon, and told everyone to come prepped for api testing fun with a tool of their choice. everyone was excited to get into this. a few of us had done some little bits of api testing before through a mix of postman, fiddler, jmeter, runscope, powershell and javascript, but here, we all committed to use a new tool that we hadn't used before. i'd done the most api testing previously, so took to public apis to come up with challenges for the session that people would solve with their tools, the idea being that the challenges would represent those seen within our domain (e.g. get/post, redirection, oauth), and other than me, nobody had any domain knowledge advantage. we'd use a 30 minute block the next day to debrief. for discovering apis for the challenges, i stuck to things i'd used in the past plus a small amount of googling. if you don't have this, or want some variety, try https://any-api.com/ for some public and well-documented apis. i wish i'd known about this then... the session was fantastic fun. we had a mix of skills where some people were naturally bent towards an aptitude for this sort of thing, and it naturally lent itself to pairing when people solved quite how apps authenticated with twitter (this wasn't trivial, and the docs felt fragmented). at the end of this session, we'd eliminated a few tools as being not feature rich enough for our use cases, or plain too ugly or hard to use. we ditched pytest, karate and a couple of others. we ditched everything except postman and frisby.js , as these seemed most capable of completing the tasks. i was investigating frisby for this session, and you can see the challenges i set and my work to solve them on github . we regrouped two weeks later where we ran a second session. we each picked either postman or frisby (except the two of who used those tools previously - we switched). i provided a new set of challenges, this time inside our business domain - real tests against our live apis. given the limited amount of experience most people had gained on api testing by this point, this was still a non-trivial effort. we learned loads and gained velocity given that we had the domain knowledge. the result of the session? surprisingly inconclusive. as it turns out, these tools have different strengths and are useful for different things. we decided that postman was great for exploratory testing and frisby was great for regression testing. postman has a testing ability, but felt primitive compared to what you can do in frisby. frisby could be used for exploratory testing, but it'd be time consuming. we decided to start implementing regression tests in code whilst also purchasing postman pro licenses for the team to use for feature work. the team felt enabled - every time we considered automating a browser interaction, we could immediately consider pushing ui tests to api tests. of course, the journey doesn't end there. when can you push an api call to a simulated calls in an integration test? and so on to component tests, then to unit tests. posted by dan caseley at 06:21 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest friday, 13 october 2017 the nonsense of gender-influences on testers have you been watching duck quacks don't echo? lee mack has guests on and they talk and test lesser-known facts. for instance, did you know that: people with blue eyes have a higher tolerance for alcohol than brown-eyed people the chlorine in swimming pools smells because the pool is dirty i'll be honest, the gags are naff, and not all facts are interesting facts, but i approve of their testing of things, and every once in a while, there's a fact that tickles my professional interest. for instance, take these three facts: men are better at multitasking women are better at remembering driving routes taxi drivers have a larger hippocampus than regular people if this were true, these give some interesting ideas towards lots of aspects of testing and test management, not limited to task assignment and team selection. but it's all nonsense of course. if this is to be believed, a male tester would be a good choice of team member for a project with concurrent streams and context switching, whilst a female tester would be a good choice for accurate repro steps and reliably repeating tasks they've seen demonstrated. but surely everyone with some years of industry experience has met members of both genders who has admirable skills in both areas at a level to aspire to? i certainly have. repeatedly. but there was science! admittedly, it's "edutainment" science, but they had people on with doctorates who explained things. i struggled to reconcile this. then they gave me the fact about the taxi drivers, and it was all made clear. taxi drivers have a larger hippocampus because of their constant effort in tactical route selection and thier dependency on short and long term memory. like a trained muscle, practising this activity makes them better at it, and as they hit the peak in their training, the task becomes easier. it stands to reason here that the male taxi driver will follow a route better than the female new driver. my takeaway here is that an experienced person would trump any gender-enabled amateur, and that anyone can do anything they want to with some practice. as a very tall person who has attempted basketball and racket sports this would appear to hold true. posted by dan caseley at 04:11 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest monday, 29 august 2016 t7: dig deeper during a recent conversation on testers.io, i asked whether anyone had cool resources or ideas that i could take to my test team meeting as an activity to keep everyone thinking. my team is mixed level, so i want activities that add xp to my juniors but without boring the seniors. (side note: i hate junior/senior terminology, and want something better. ideas?) ideas weren't forthcoming, so i thought i'd start writing some of my own. if i give this project a name, i'll be able to scope it. t7: tools to train test teams to think that's really not a cool name, but it'll do for now. first idea is dig deeper . this is a training exercise intended to encourage testers to think beyond "this works" and on to "this does what we want it to do". this is derived entirely from a section of explore it! so all credit goes to elizabeth hendrickson. her story was about an installer. scenario: a new software installer for the next version of the software. in elizabeth's scenario, the tester's initially worked to a "this works" criteria, namely that it ran without error. works: installer runs without error this was shown later to be insufficient when a member of another team showed that the software wasn't actually installed. dig deeper: software is installed to correct locations, registry values appropriately set, application launches & performs some basic operations there could be more "deep" criteria than this, but you see how this works. take a seemingly reasonable test criteria, and refine it. we tried this in our last team meeting. the team got the idea very quickly, and solved the 4 example problems i'd prepared. i sought feedback, and it was... middling. these were the problems: it was a bit simple, so doesn't really deal with the complex problems we deal with day-to-day all of the examples were based on things we have done, so it's hard to separate yourself from your domain knowledge to answer the question "properly" at least one of the examples was more "what else" than "dig deeper" seems like this could be a good tool, and it's my use of it that needs some work! i used a very simple slide deck which you're free to pinch: google drive . any & all feedback welcome! posted by dan caseley at 09:51 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest labels: t7 friday, 24 april 2015 the carwash analogy i was recently having a discussion with a developer friend of mine about why he should recruit testers (since they currently don't). it bothers me that the end of the conversation didn't end "dan, you're absolutely right, i'm totally getting me some of them!". explaining testing well is no easy task. what if the company is doing well with their current quality level? the problem here is that testers don't have a largely tangible output. we provide a service. we deal in information, and our net output could be described as confidence. what if we made the analogy between testing and a car wash? my friend has developers doing unit tests and sanity checks on the end-to-end process, so he's already at level 2. it's 50p more than level 1, and probably £2 more than not washing his car. adding testers dials you up to level 8. the car wash is much more thorough. there's some premium soaping and scrubbing that's happening at the same time as the level 2 stuff. there's a bunch of stuff happening that you were never going to get at level 2 that takes a little longer. waxing, buffing and the like. totally premium, and totally costs a few quid more. so what's the result? either: * you know your car is cleaner as a result of getting level 8, or * you're more confident that dirt that was probably removed by level 2 is definitely gone now don't fool yourself. level 8 doesn't mean sterile. but you certainly gave it your best try. testers don't actually remove issues. i also think this analogy is imperfect in that it draws a parallel between what's probably a perfectly good wash and developers checking their own code, which i feel understates the importance of testing. all the same, i might try this on my developer friend and see if it helps. be careful: clean cars are addictive. once you've sat in something cleaned at level 8, you'll wonder quite how good level 9 could be! posted by dan caseley at 04:46 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest friday, 10 april 2015 the persona of a tester hey it's springtime, and there's a new testing blog, so given the time of year, you should be expecting a write-up of my experiences at the recent (and excellent!) testbash 2015. i might get to that, but not today. instead, i wanted to share a great picture with you that really captured the essence of testing for me, and perhaps why i still enjoy testing after years in the industry when some tire of it, or use it as a stepping stone to other things. for me this image is a person who has trained to be where they are, and who sets off exploring equipped with the best tools they can find. a confident step forwards, and they're into the untrodden. sometimes, maybe a little faster than they should (or is that just me?). you can extend the analogy further by saying they've got a supportive team, that the tools or the person or the team isn't separately enough, or that in times of recession people in this career are, rightly or wrongly, in lower demand. but that's all afterthought i put in when writing this post. following karen johnson's great workshop at testbash, i considered that maybe i should spend some time considering my own persona when analysing requirements for testability. whilst this orange chap might represent me, i'm sure there are plenty of other testers who wouldn't identify the same way, and their requirements for testability would differ. i know some would say you can't boil testing down to an image, but i hear they can convey about 1000 words of it. this is how i identify as a tester right now, but i very much doubt that's static. i'll let you know when i find something i identify with more. image is cc licensed and originated here . posted by dan caseley at 05:22 no comments: email this blogthis! share to twitter share to facebook share to pinterest home subscribe to: posts (atom) subscribe to posts atom posts all comments atom all comments blog archive ▼ 2018 (2) ▼ may (2) hacking the rules (in a safe space) choosing an api tool ► 2017 (1) ► october (1) ► 2016 (1) ► august (1) ► 2015 (2) ► april (2) awesome inc. theme. powered by blogger .

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